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RE: Hilo OFICIAL PRETEMPORADA F1 2018 - joaquinhrndz - 03-03-2018

Del foro de autosport:
Gary seems to think we are 3rd fastest, this is his article for the subscribers - unsure how he derived those times with such accuracy but whatever... :p



"This has been the most difficult pre-season Formula 1 test to read anything into that I've ever known, mainly thanks to the usually cold, often wet and sometimes snowy conditions that have hit the resurfaced Barcelona circuit.

But you can always learn something from what happens on track, so despite those problems on top of the usual question marks over fuel loads, run plans, tyre choices and how hard drivers are pushing I've attempted to produce a car ranking that at least will give a pointer to how the season is shaping up.

We'll learn a lot more at next week's second test, so none of this can be taken as gospel. But by looking at the fastest lap times set by each team, adjusting it for what we know about fuel load based on how many laps were completed on the run that they did their fastest lap on and what the teams have tended to run with in recent years, and then putting in an adjustment factor for the tyre compound being used, you can extrapolate what time might have been possible at the start of that run with lower fuel.

We don't have clear data on the delta between the tyre compounds for here, so this is based on taking the known steps between the compounds based on the Abu Dhabi test late last year adjusted for the difference in lap time and track characteristics.

Adjust fastest lap times (normalised for soft compound tyre)

1 Red Bull 1m18.129s
2 Mercedes 1m18.383s
3 Ferrari 1m19.123s
4 Renault 1m19.373s
5 McLaren 1m19.425s
6 Haas 1m20.367s
7 Toro Rosso 1m20.418s
8 Williams 1m20.792s
9 Force India 1m21.341s
10 Sauber 1m21.771s


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RE: Hilo OFICIAL PRETEMPORADA F1 2018 - enrike hu fr - 03-03-2018

(03-03-2018, 13:50)joaquinhrndz escribió: Del foro de autosport:
Gary seems to think we are 3rd fastest, this is his article for the subscribers - unsure how he derived those times with such accuracy but whatever...  :p



"This has been the most difficult pre-season Formula 1 test to read anything into that I've ever known, mainly thanks to the usually cold, often wet and sometimes snowy conditions that have hit the resurfaced Barcelona circuit.

But you can always learn something from what happens on track, so despite those problems on top of the usual question marks over fuel loads, run plans, tyre choices and how hard drivers are pushing I've attempted to produce a car ranking that at least will give a pointer to how the season is shaping up.

We'll learn a lot more at next week's second test, so none of this can be taken as gospel. But by looking at the fastest lap times set by each team, adjusting it for what we know about fuel load based on how many laps were completed on the run that they did their fastest lap on and what the teams have tended to run with in recent years, and then putting in an adjustment factor for the tyre compound being used, you can extrapolate what time might have been possible at the start of that run with lower fuel.

We don't have clear data on the delta between the tyre compounds for here, so this is based on taking the known steps between the compounds based on the Abu Dhabi test late last year adjusted for the difference in lap time and track characteristics.

Adjust fastest lap times (normalised for soft compound tyre)

1 Red Bull 1m18.129s
2 Mercedes 1m18.383s
3 Ferrari 1m19.123s
4 Renault 1m19.373s
5 McLaren 1m19.425s
6 Haas 1m20.367s
7 Toro Rosso 1m20.418s
8 Williams 1m20.792s
9 Force India 1m21.341s
10 Sauber 1m21.771s


https://www.autospor...-after-test-one

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RE: Hilo OFICIAL PRETEMPORADA F1 2018 - enrike hu fr - 03-03-2018

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2018 se juega en las traseras ,,


RE: Hilo OFICIAL PRETEMPORADA F1 2018 - enrike hu fr - 03-03-2018

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What can we read from the Barcelona timesheets?

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Mercedes (total 306 laps). Up until the final day the Mercedes W09 didn’t look decisively faster than either the Ferrari or Red Bull. It was always very quick in sectors one and two - which emphasise aero efficiency – but was consistently slower than its two rivals in the slow final sector. But whether through a set-up change that kept the rear tyres from getting too hot or through Lewis Hamilton finding a better groove there than had Valtteri Bottas, it was competitively quick even in its weakest sector on Thursday. By our reckoning Hamilton’s best lap – fuel and tyre adjusted – was around 0.3sec clear of Vettel’s Ferrari. But that was only on a single lap basis. On the long runs, Hamilton’s best would have had him 2.4sec behind Vettel at the end of a nine-lap stint. Although super-quick over a single lap, we’ve yet to see the Merc complete as good a long run as either Ferrari or Red Bull. Just a different run programme or indicative of an actual trait? That could be the single most important question of the off-season.
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Red Bull (total 207 laps) and Ferrari (total 298 laps). Vettel was The Man on Tuesday, and actually went slightly faster on Thursday, but not by enough to prevent being shaded by Hamilton. However, his best long run had him averaging 1m 20.9sec over nine laps, which was an exceptional pace and the best long run anyone put together all week.
Red Bull didn’t get the cleanest of runs after Daniel Ricciardo had headed the times on Monday. Max Verstappen suffered technical problems on both Tuesday and Thursday but he was quick when he ran. One very long run he made on Tuesday of 23 laps looks especially interesting: taking out the obviously slow laps (for either traffic or perhaps trying to keep the tyres alive), he averaged just 0.2sec slower than Vettel’s much shorter best run on Thursday.
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Renault (total 273 laps). The RS18 looked best of the rest after the big three by a very useful margin, though uniquely it did its fastest time on the Monday – in the hands of Nico Hülkenberg.
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Williams-Mercedes (total 275 laps). Robert Kubica reported the FW41 to be a “powerful performer” in some respects but had some initial balance issues that needed further work. Lance Stroll was well into the car’s groove on Thursday afternoon and managed to string together a sequence of laps that seem to place the car initially towards the upper midfield.
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Haas-Ferrari (total 187 laps) & McLaren-Renault (total 249 laps). This is a respectable pace for Haas, a worrying one for McLaren. Kevin Magnussen found the Haas to respond well to the super-soft tyre but even accounting for that tyre’s supposed 1.3sec advantage over the soft most others were using, the new VF18 looks promising – though Roman Grosjean continues to struggle with front locking.
At McLaren the headline numbers looked good, with Stoffel Vandoorne second quickest on Thursday – but that was using the hyper-soft, a much quicker tyre than anyone else. He remained on this compound throughout his running and taking account of its performance boost puts the McLaren around 2sec off the Red Bull. However it’s believed to have been running in compromised form, possibly related to a problem with exhaust temperatures that brought a premature end to its Tuesday. If the engine was being run rich to control exhaust temperatures, it would cost significant performance. Fernando Alonso spent most of his time on the super-soft but wasn’t particularly fast either. A lot of question marks surround the MCL33 at the moment, but hopefully it will show its true potential if it can run in uncompromised form next week.
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Force India-Mercedes (total 166 laps). Even compared to the other teams, Force India was spending a lot of its time aero mapping and we probably haven’t seen a representative lap from it yet. The team says it will be concentrating on performance testing next week.
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Toro Rosso-Honda (total 322 laps). The Honda ran very reliably throughout the four days, actually completing more laps than any other team, but as yet not very quickly.
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Sauber-Ferrari (total 282 laps). The Alfa-liveried car has yet to go as well as it looks


RE: Hilo OFICIAL PRETEMPORADA F1 2018 - enrike hu fr - 03-03-2018

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RE: Hilo OFICIAL PRETEMPORADA F1 2018 - ethernet - 03-03-2018

(03-03-2018, 13:50)joaquinhrndz escribió: Del foro de autosport:
Gary seems to think we are 3rd fastest, this is his article for the subscribers - unsure how he derived those times with such accuracy but whatever...  :p



"This has been the most difficult pre-season Formula 1 test to read anything into that I've ever known, mainly thanks to the usually cold, often wet and sometimes snowy conditions that have hit the resurfaced Barcelona circuit.

But you can always learn something from what happens on track, so despite those problems on top of the usual question marks over fuel loads, run plans, tyre choices and how hard drivers are pushing I've attempted to produce a car ranking that at least will give a pointer to how the season is shaping up.

We'll learn a lot more at next week's second test, so none of this can be taken as gospel. But by looking at the fastest lap times set by each team, adjusting it for what we know about fuel load based on how many laps were completed on the run that they did their fastest lap on and what the teams have tended to run with in recent years, and then putting in an adjustment factor for the tyre compound being used, you can extrapolate what time might have been possible at the start of that run with lower fuel.

We don't have clear data on the delta between the tyre compounds for here, so this is based on taking the known steps between the compounds based on the Abu Dhabi test late last year adjusted for the difference in lap time and track characteristics.

Adjust fastest lap times (normalised for soft compound tyre)

1 Red Bull 1m18.129s
2 Mercedes 1m18.383s
3 Ferrari 1m19.123s
4 Renault 1m19.373s
5 McLaren 1m19.425s
6 Haas 1m20.367s
7 Toro Rosso 1m20.418s
8 Williams 1m20.792s
9 Force India 1m21.341s
10 Sauber 1m21.771s


https://www.autospor...-after-test-one
Por lo menos una voz disonante en cuanto a el valor de las deltas entre compuestos. 

Si esas diferencias de rendimiento entre los compuestos fuesen menores de las que se estaba diciendo hasta ahora el panorama cambia totalmente y lo que está diciendo este hombre empieza a cobrar sentido. 

La semana que viene resolveremos muchas dudas


RE: Hilo OFICIAL PRETEMPORADA F1 2018 - enrike hu fr - 03-03-2018

(03-03-2018, 14:13)enrike hu fr escribió: [Imagen: DXRM8d0WkAAQW9c.jpg:large]



RE: Hilo OFICIAL PRETEMPORADA F1 2018 - ethernet - 03-03-2018

(03-03-2018, 14:00)enrike hu fr escribió: [Imagen: DXN1Zm9X4AAQMGU.jpg:large]

2018 se juega en las traseras ,,
Y esto es otra cosa que ya he mencionado si los equipos que mejor calienta las gomas en este frío las destrozan en temperaturas normales pues a lo mejor los resultados de estos tests no son tan malos


RE: Hilo OFICIAL PRETEMPORADA F1 2018 - enrike hu fr - 03-03-2018

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La suciedad d una excursión d Vandoorne deja rastros del flujo en los pontones.


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https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/969182849642483715


RE: Hilo OFICIAL PRETEMPORADA F1 2018 - enrike hu fr - 03-03-2018

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Gran traca final en la primera semana de test en el Circuit #F1Testing http://www.circuitcat.com/es/noticias/formula-1/gran-traca-final-en-la-primera-semana-de-test-en-el-circuit/