Acabo de ver esta entrevista de Jackie Stewart a Senna.
Entrevista a Senna
Si bien el brasileño era la leche en el cuerpo a cuerpo, no deja de ser un escocés tocándole los huevos a un no inglés, que estaba haciendo cosas que ni él ni otro habían hecho antes.
¿Stewart habría hecho lo mismo con Hamilton?, por ejemplo.
Y por otro lado, la respuesta de Senna......... si Fernando a una preguntita cojonera de las que le hacen respondiese en ese plan, diciendo que en los últimos años y GPs es el mejor piloto, le dan estopa todos los medios, extrajeros y nacionales.
ethernet.. una pequena aclaracion.. no te olvides que no hay cosa que un escoces odie mas que a un ingles.. y viceversa..
un britanico sin embargo engloba escoceses e ingleses (y otros por supuesto)
Habría que preguntarse ¿Porque en el Reino Unido se reproduce tan bien la mosca cojonera?
Quizás sea el clima.
no, el clima no creo, siempre me han dicho que es... "el muy peculiar humor inglès"
Lo que esta claro es que por la cabeza de Senna pasa un "pero sera...? te vas a cagar"... y la respuesta le da de plano en toda la boca, porque tiene toda la razon del mundo, creo yo.
Entrevista completa (solo falta el primer parrafo):
Y su trancripcion:
Cita:INTRODUCER: Hardly a season goes by in Formula 1 without at leas one major row but never has a controversy split expert opinion so squarely as the one surrounding that first corner collision involving Senna and Prost at Suzuka two weeks ago. For example, our good friend Jackie here believes that Senna's driving has been highly questionable all season. What's more he doesn't mind saying so, even to Senna. In this interview a former World Champion and the new World Champion meet for a frank exchange of views. [FILM OF THE CRASH IS PLAYED]
SENNA: He knew I was right with him, I was not far behind, I was right with him and when I was right behind him he moved to the inside line going towards the first corner, I just chased him then and he opened the gap. And knowing me like he does know, he must realise if there was a gap I was going to try and overtake him. Under those circumstances, he should never have opened a gap in the first corner and then come back again - because, by doing so, he opened the gap, gives the gap and then closes it. In those circumstances there was no way to avoid an incident.
STEWART: Right. But that only happened, Ayrton, because you saw the gap - and I accept that, you're a racer - but a mature racer has to also think if he closes the door again we're going to have an accident. And in fact there was a high-speed entrance so there could have been a very serious accident.
SENNA: Absolutely.
STEWART: So would it not have been more prudent under those circumstances to at least have seen if the gap was potentially going to close?
SENNA: Not at all. He was in a position where he could never - under no circumstances - put his car anywhere near mine in a difficult position, because if we happened just to touch - just to touch - and have a wing damaged or a flat tyre, he had everything to lose. And under those circumstances my understanding was that he would never move against me in the first corner. I was very surprised when I found myself with him moving the car over mine [WAVING FINGER].
STEWART: So in that case you were calculating that he would give way, that he would let you through?
SENNA: Of course. He would not close the way he did from the moment he made the initial room [STILL WAVING FINGER] he would not come back and close the door again.
STEWART: A calculated risk?
SENNA: Of course. [SHRUGS SHOULDERS]
STEWART: OK, let me ask you another difficult question. If I were to count back all the World Champions - and, after all, this is the 500th grand prix, if you totalled up all of those great champions [SENNA SMILES LANGUIDLY] and the number of times they had made contact with other drivers, you in the last 36 months or 48 months have been in contact with more other cars and drivers than they might have done in total.
SENNA: I find it amazing for you to make such a question, Stewart, because you are very experienced and you know a lot about racing and you should know that by being a racing driver you are under risks all the time. Being a racing driver means you are racing with other people and if you no longer go for a gap that exists you are no longer a racing driver - because we are competing, we are competing to win and the main motivation to all of us is to compete for a victory. It's not to come third, fourth, fifth or sixth. Right?
STEWART: But hasn't that always been the case?
SENNA: Sorry?
STEWART: But hasn't that always been the case with all the great champions?
SENNA: Absolutely. [FILM OF THE CRASH IS PLAYED AGAIN] And if you go back… [TALKING TOGETHER]
STEWART: But it didn't happen…
SENNA: But if you go back in history and talk about the incidents and so on, then you'll find that I've been myself leading most of the races and finding back-markers in front of me and I was never involved in leading races with other people. [FILM OF A CRASH WITH BERGER IN BRAZIL, THEN THE CRASH WITH PROST AT THE CHICANE, SUZUKA 1989, IS BEING PLAYED] There were three, four events only when I was leading a race at the first corner and like many other people I've been involved.
STEWART: I have to believe though, Ayrton, there must be some fault and I respect totally your ability, you're the fastest grand prix driver in the world but I have to speculate that it can't all be right that you have this many collisions, if you like [SENNA STONE FACED] whether it be with back-markers or whether it be with lead changes, it just happens too often. Don't you question yourself if...
SENNA: But I think it's all irrelevant, all what you are saying Jackie is really irrelevant because I am a driver [VOICE RISING A LITTLE] that won more races than anybody over the past three years, I am a driver that's been on pole position more than anybody in history and I am a driver that won two titles in the past three years. I cannot comprehend how you can try to [RAISES LEFT HAND, PLACES TWO FINGERS HORIZONTALLY AND TWISTS THEM IN A CORKSCREW MOTION] turn things around to say that I have been involved in more accidents than anybody — because that is not true as well. I don't really understand the point.
STEWART: I'm sorry, I don't agree with that because…
SENNA: Then you should go back [POINTS FINGER AT STEWART THREE TIMES], you should go back ten years from the date of today and [WAGS FINGER] look not only at the leaders, you should look at the middle [HAND WAVING] the middle field drivers and the back field drivers
STEWART: I speak of the champions…
SENNA: ….. and find, find by yourself that what you say is not quite right [FLICKER OFA SMILE].
STEWART: Well, I would be happy to go back with you and go through the Fangios and the Clarks and the…
SENNA: No, you only have to go back ten years, you only have to go back ten years, the modern Formula 1, that's what we are talking about [THIN SMILE].
STEWART: So you feel totally comfortable that the technique of driving that you use has not in any way developed into a situation where the gap opens up and it's taken spontaneously - because you do go for gaps, and we have all done it in our careers.
SENNA: When there is a gap [RAISES HAND], when there is a gap it is designed for being in a competition at a very high level [meaning the gap happens in a very high level of competition] with cars going so close as they go today, with the same horsepower, with the same level of grip, with the same low aerodynamics, you all know with the different circuits where it is very difficult for overtaking - because the circuits are designed not in an appropriate manner for overtaking manoeuvres - you either commit yourself as a professional racing driver that is designed to win races [WAVING HAND] or you come second, or you come third, or you come fifth and I am not designed to come third, fourth, or fifth. I race to win as long as I feel it is possible. Sometimes you get it wrong, sure, it is impossible to get it right all the time but I race designed to win [WAVING LEFT HAND] and as long as I feel I am doing it right some people agree, some don't. In the end I am the one who is doing it, I am the one who is driving and I can only do what speaks for my mind [meaning what I think].
Personalmente creo que lo que Senna explicaba sobre el choque con Prost solo podia estar en su imaginacion, porque creo que simplemente quiso vengarse por lo del año anterior en el que probablemente Prost fue el causante del choque al cerrar prematuramente a Senna, y porque la fia finalmente mantuvo la pole en la parte sucia de la trazada. La trazada de Prost en Suzuka 1990 era normal, y creo que fue Senna el que se fue directo a por Prost, no freno, quiso dar por acabada esa carrera para el y para Prost, obteniendo de esa manera el campeonato. Hablar de riesgos calculados era de lo mas fantasioso porque en el angulo que choco a Prost podria incluso haber volcado.
A mi es que no me gusta esa forma de preguntar, y tratándose de Senna se me revuelven las tripas.
PD: Regina que bien hablas, la mejor reportera que hay. Espero que no se te pegue nada de los periodistas ingleses.
¿Porque se te revuelven las tripas? Las preguntas son muy incisivas porque la entrevista se hizo despues del GP de Japon 1990 con el que Senna se proclamo campeon por segunda vez y lo hizo chocando a proposito contra Prost su rival directo en la lucha por el campeonato, que por cierto conducia un coche notablemente peor que el McLaren, Prost no hizo ni una sola pole ese año pero en carrera era un martillo ganando varias carreras y llegaba a esa carrera con opciones de prolongar la lucha hasta la siguiente y ultima en Australia, pero Senna se encargo de que eso no sucediera. Son incisivas, Jackie Stewart entonces ya era una leyenda viva y uno de los ex-pilotos campeones mas respetados, mientras que Ayrton Senna era un arrogante alguien que queria pasar por encima de todos aparte de un autentico apestado para la fia, a muchos les dolera leer esto, pero es que si siguiera vivo no tendrian ningun pudor en decir esto y cosas aun peores, en el extremo negativo seria tratado de peor forma de la que se haya tratado a cualquier piloto, pero murio en el GP de San Marino en 1994 y por eso ahora se le percibe de mucha mejor forma de la que se le percibiria si ahora fuese un cincuenton padre de familia.
Pues no sabia que esto era así, yo soy de los que tiene otra imagen de Senna. No te puedo rebatir, por que en esta época de la F1 apenas seguía las carreras.
Pilotos maltratados por la FIA y la prensa conozco yo algunos que no se lo merecen, pero bueno.
Y en este choque yo veo que Prost se cruza y es el que provoca el accidente, nada más empezar la carrera. Creo que quedaba otra carrera más, y me parece demasiado riesgo para un piloto. En fin que ya te digo que no me interesa demasiado la prehistoria. (Prehistoria: antes de Alonso)
(13-07-2012, 19:39)ABERRONCHO escribió: [ -> ]Pues no sabia que esto era así, yo soy de los que tiene otra imagen de Senna. No te puedo rebatir, por que en esta época de la F1 apenas seguía las carreras.
Pilotos maltratados por la FIA y la prensa conozco yo algunos que no se lo merecen, pero bueno.
Y en este choque yo veo que Prost se cruza y es el que provoca el accidente, nada más empezar la carrera. Creo que quedaba otra carrera más, y me parece demasiado riesgo para un piloto. En fin que ya te digo que no me interesa demasiado la prehistoria. (Prehistoria: antes de Alonso)
Efectivamente la culpa total de ese accidente es de Prost, que no mira por los retrovisores, pero tambien es verdad que Senna no era el piloto mas limpio de la parrilla.