04-10-2010, 18:13
04-10-2010, 18:33
Le pondrán ruido enlatado, un sonido grabado, no se, posiblemente una sinfonía tipo películas de Vietnam.
04-10-2010, 18:41
Realmente se habla de una competicion de coches electricos, mas que la Formula 1 sea electrica en un futuro...
De ser la competicion como dice la noticia, pues mejor que no haya ruido enlatado, como quieren hacer con los coches electricos de calle (son un peligro para los peatones, acostumbrados a guiarse por el ruido, en muchas ocasiones)...
De ser la competicion como dice la noticia, pues mejor que no haya ruido enlatado, como quieren hacer con los coches electricos de calle (son un peligro para los peatones, acostumbrados a guiarse por el ruido, en muchas ocasiones)...
04-10-2010, 20:31
(04-10-2010, 18:41)Monza06 escribió: [ -> ]Realmente se habla de una competicion de coches electricos, mas que la Formula 1 sea electrica en un futuro...Jajaja, es solo ensayos, pero si es posible que los F1, acaben usando motores eléctricos, aunque en principio no solos, irán acompañados de motores o turbinas que hagan de generadores para mover los motores eléctricos, o sea, que ruido, si que harán.
De ser la competicion como dice la noticia, pues mejor que no haya ruido enlatado, como quieren hacer con los coches electricos de calle (son un peligro para los peatones, acostumbrados a guiarse por el ruido, en muchas ocasiones)...
Hay que pensar que nuevos constructores de automóviles quieren regresar a la F1, eso es que quieren usar la F1, para lo que realmente es, campo de pruebas de coches de calle, es decir, para desarrollar tecnologías aplicables a los coches de serie.
09-12-2010, 22:10
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.as...p/id/88639
FIA set to approve green engine rules
By Jonathan Noble Thursday, December 9th 2010, 16:58 GMT
Formula 1 is set to move closer a greener future on Friday with the FIA poised to rubber-stamp radical new rules for more environmentally friendly engines from 2013.
Following lengthy discussions between engine manufacturers about the creation of an all-new engine formula for grand prix racing to replace the current 2.4-litre V8s from 2013, formal plans for more fuel efficient power units are set for a green light by motor racing's governing body.
The new engines will be 1.6-litre turbocharged units that will feature extensive energy recovery systems. The aim is for there to be a drastic reduction in fuel consumption while still producing the same amount of power as current engines.
Although there had been some discussion in recent weeks about keeping the current V8 regulations for a few more years, with manufacturers struggling to agree on a path that was satisfactory for all of them (see feature on this), FIA president Jean Todt made it clear that the governing body would not accept any delay to the 2013 timeframe.
Todt's intervention forced the engine makers to get the regulations sorted and, following a meeting of the Formula 1 Commission in Monaco today (Thursday), the 2013 rules are set to be cast in stone when they are discussed at the FIA World Council that meets in Monaco on Friday.
The confirmation of the switch to 'greener' engines will greatly satisfy Todt, who has made it clear from the start of his presidency that F1 had to become more environmentally aware.
The move also looks set to boost F1 itself, with senior sponsorship executives convinced that a greener sport could have commercial benefits for teams.
David Tucker, director at sports agency KTB, told Brand Republic: "The potential rule change will allow F1 to appeal to a wider potential sponsor audience, and demonstrate to fans F1 is still at the cutting edge of technology.
"Despite gradual changes to the sport, some still perceive it to be wasteful and not sustainable. If brands are working hard to become more environmentally responsible, how can they become involved in the sport? This is a good commercial, as well as ethical, move for F1."
The World Council is also likely to finalise the 2011 F1 calendar as well as confirm other tweaks to next year's regulations - which includes moveable rear wings, the return of KERS and bans on F-ducts and double diffusers
FIA set to approve green engine rules
By Jonathan Noble Thursday, December 9th 2010, 16:58 GMT
Formula 1 is set to move closer a greener future on Friday with the FIA poised to rubber-stamp radical new rules for more environmentally friendly engines from 2013.
Following lengthy discussions between engine manufacturers about the creation of an all-new engine formula for grand prix racing to replace the current 2.4-litre V8s from 2013, formal plans for more fuel efficient power units are set for a green light by motor racing's governing body.
The new engines will be 1.6-litre turbocharged units that will feature extensive energy recovery systems. The aim is for there to be a drastic reduction in fuel consumption while still producing the same amount of power as current engines.
Although there had been some discussion in recent weeks about keeping the current V8 regulations for a few more years, with manufacturers struggling to agree on a path that was satisfactory for all of them (see feature on this), FIA president Jean Todt made it clear that the governing body would not accept any delay to the 2013 timeframe.
Todt's intervention forced the engine makers to get the regulations sorted and, following a meeting of the Formula 1 Commission in Monaco today (Thursday), the 2013 rules are set to be cast in stone when they are discussed at the FIA World Council that meets in Monaco on Friday.
The confirmation of the switch to 'greener' engines will greatly satisfy Todt, who has made it clear from the start of his presidency that F1 had to become more environmentally aware.
The move also looks set to boost F1 itself, with senior sponsorship executives convinced that a greener sport could have commercial benefits for teams.
David Tucker, director at sports agency KTB, told Brand Republic: "The potential rule change will allow F1 to appeal to a wider potential sponsor audience, and demonstrate to fans F1 is still at the cutting edge of technology.
"Despite gradual changes to the sport, some still perceive it to be wasteful and not sustainable. If brands are working hard to become more environmentally responsible, how can they become involved in the sport? This is a good commercial, as well as ethical, move for F1."
The World Council is also likely to finalise the 2011 F1 calendar as well as confirm other tweaks to next year's regulations - which includes moveable rear wings, the return of KERS and bans on F-ducts and double diffusers
Wallabee
09-12-2010, 22:13
¿Un F1 ecológico? No gracias. Ya me compraré un prius para compensar.
10-12-2010, 19:24
13-12-2010, 17:38
A mi me parece muy bien todo el tema de la ecologia en la ingenieria pero muchas veces nos olvidamos de algo muy importante, en numerosas ocasiones la ecologia que nos venden no es la real y esque....:
·quien tiene en cuenta los efectos medioambientales de la creacion de las baterias de litio?y su reciclaje?
·y las reservas de litio (para baterias) y cobre (para el cableado) son renovables?
·y de donde sale la energia electrica que se mete en las baterias?si vemos los datos de origen de la electricidad que usamos en españa, mas del 75% NO proviene de energias renovables (combustion de petroleo y carbon, energia nuclear, etc), es decir, que mas del 75% de la energia que consumirian esos coches, en españa, seria energia no renovable (aqui podemos mirar la produccion de energia electrica en españa a tiempo real: https://demanda.ree.es/demanda.html; y en: https://demanda.ree.es/generacion_acumulada.html)
a mi me parece bien lo de la ecologia pero siendo realistas con ella, y casi nadie lo es con este tema
·quien tiene en cuenta los efectos medioambientales de la creacion de las baterias de litio?y su reciclaje?
·y las reservas de litio (para baterias) y cobre (para el cableado) son renovables?
·y de donde sale la energia electrica que se mete en las baterias?si vemos los datos de origen de la electricidad que usamos en españa, mas del 75% NO proviene de energias renovables (combustion de petroleo y carbon, energia nuclear, etc), es decir, que mas del 75% de la energia que consumirian esos coches, en españa, seria energia no renovable (aqui podemos mirar la produccion de energia electrica en españa a tiempo real: https://demanda.ree.es/demanda.html; y en: https://demanda.ree.es/generacion_acumulada.html)
a mi me parece bien lo de la ecologia pero siendo realistas con ella, y casi nadie lo es con este tema
Wallabee
13-12-2010, 18:48
¿Y el reciclado de baterías, ya están empezando a cambiarlas por haber finalizado su vida útil? y no es una batería como loa de los coches convencionales, son varias.
A parte del dinero que valen, que no es como cambiar una correa de distribución, hay que reciclarlas y eso contamina lo suyo.
A parte del dinero que valen, que no es como cambiar una correa de distribución, hay que reciclarlas y eso contamina lo suyo.
13-12-2010, 23:06
(13-12-2010, 18:48)Por tangos escribió: [ -> ]¿Y el reciclado de baterías, ya están empezando a cambiarlas por haber finalizado su vida útil? y no es una batería como loa de los coches convencionales, son varias.
A parte del dinero que valen, que no es como cambiar una correa de distribución, hay que reciclarlas y eso contamina lo suyo.
EXACTO
a eso mismo me referia yo en el primer punto de los que antes expuse, que la creacion y el reciclaje de las baterias es muy muy contaminante, sobre todo el reciclaje.....
y ademas hay que sumarle los otros puntos que expuse!......