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RE: G.P. DE SINGAPUR 2013. LA MANIPULACIÓN CONTINUA. - Wallabee - 23-09-2013
Dezeta, aquello de que Red Bull sabe interpretar el reglamento, hace tiempo que dejó de colar. Creo que ahora ya, nadie se cree eso. Y son ellos mismos, la famosa reunión dejó claro que no son ni evoluciones, ni interpretación, todo es por el artículo 9, si o si.
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RE: G.P. DE SINGAPUR 2013. LA MANIPULACIÓN CONTINUA. - Mike DeTo - 23-09-2013
(23-09-2013, 18:25)ranademiradafija escribió: Desde el 2007 que es mi primer post. Así que, siempre os he leído y hora quizá toca participar.
Sobre todo por posts como el de grutxenka que me a tocado la fibra.
Triste 2007 aquel y triste 2013 también.... Solo me consuela el hecho de que Fernando se está haciendo Grande
sin ganar mundiales......Quien no se mordía las uñas en el 2005 y 2006? Ahora es diferente, ya no hay nada que demostrar.
Si no gana ningún mundial más me conformaría con que sea recordado como el mejor piloto de todos los tiempos, y va de camino....
Como es posible hacer una carrera épica cada GP?????!!!!
Gracias a todo el foro por el nivelado que hay, ...Con este nivel es imposible que Fernando no se pase por aquí alguna vez....
Ya lo conseguimos en 2007 con la recogida de firmas sobre la cama que le hicieron..como dice grutxenka "Hay que seguir luchando y desenmascarando a los impostores"
Bienvenid@! Y anímate a escribir más!
RE: G.P. DE SINGAPUR 2013. LA MANIPULACIÓN CONTINUA. - Mike DeTo - 23-09-2013
(23-09-2013, 17:13)santana escribió:(23-09-2013, 17:10)payoloco escribió: jajajaja, si que le ha salido caro el taxi si!!!!
Pero y lo bien que se lo ha pasao dando una vueltecita en el coche de su colega eh??
Además como para el próxima GP le mandan 10 posiciones para atrás dirá "mira Fer, un coche menos que tienes que adelantar"
Grandes Web y Alo.
Me imagino que pagaría la factura agusto a cambio de las 10 posiciones, pero tienes razon uno menos a adelantar, aunque imagino que le daran unas cuantas vueltas a su potenciómetro al menos hasta que se ponga cerca de dedetel.
Te diré, cuando llegue cerca, le dirán eso de que tiene que cambiar de marchas antes, sin apurar revoluciones y que conserve ruedas porque preveen que pueda tener un pinchazo en breve...
RE: G.P. DE SINGAPUR 2013. LA MANIPULACIÓN CONTINUA. - grutxenka - 23-09-2013
(23-09-2013, 18:25)ranademiradafija escribió: Desde el 2007 que es mi primer post. Así que, siempre os he leído y hora quizá toca participar.
Sobre todo por posts como el de grutxenka que me a tocado la fibra.
Triste 2007 aquel y triste 2013 también.... Solo me consuela el hecho de que Fernando se está haciendo Grande
sin ganar mundiales......Quien no se mordía las uñas en el 2005 y 2006? Ahora es diferente, ya no hay nada que demostrar.
Si no gana ningún mundial más me conformaría con que sea recordado como el mejor piloto de todos los tiempos, y va de camino....
Como es posible hacer una carrera épica cada GP?????!!!!
Gracias a todo el foro por el nivelado que hay, ...Con este nivel es imposible que Fernando no se pase por aquí alguna vez....
Ya lo conseguimos en 2007 con la recogida de firmas sobre la cama que le hicieron..como dice grutxenka "Hay que seguir luchando y desenmascarando a los impostores"
Me alegra que te hayan animado mis palabras, gracias.
¿Desde el 2007? Nunca es tarde si la dicha es buena.
Encantada de tenerte a este lado. Yo he estado muchos también del otro.
¡Y anímate a participar!
Un saludo
RE: G.P. DE SINGAPUR 2013. LA MANIPULACIÓN CONTINUA. - joint350 - 23-09-2013
Descubierto el material utilizado en el interior de las llantas: se llama Polysil
Usted está hablando mucho para algunas carreras de la capa que algunos equipos punteros están utilizando en el interior de las llantas. A f1analisitecnica tiene una punta que finalmente nos muestra lo que es. El material utilizado es un tipo de cristal líquido con pigmento negro opaco que se utiliza para mejorar la conductividad térmica. sólo 's fabricante mundial de este producto innovador es la
Nanopront es el producto se llama Polysil. Se trata de un revestimiento a base de silicio atómica con características revolucionarias que permite la protección del sustrato reacondicionamiento de la estructura de la superficie.
Con una capa de unas pocas micras de alta dureza (6H). Superficies superficie tienen también
una alta resistencia a la abrasión.
Este "cristal líquido" pesa 95% de una pintura normal y tiene una resistencia a la temperatura de 1100 ° C. Actualmente pintar un volante de Fórmula 1 pesa 65-85 gramos. Con este producto, el recubrimiento pesa sólo 5 gramos, y además de la mejora de la conductividad térmica dio una mejora de 3 puntos para el CFD como se generan menos turbulencia
Algunos equipo de la parte superior, para mejorar aún más las características de este pigmento en particular mojado con agua en para simular las mismas características de mercurio.
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http://www.f1analisitecnica.com/2013/09/scoperto-il-materiale-utilizzato.html?refresh
RE: G.P. DE SINGAPUR 2013. LA MANIPULACIÓN CONTINUA. - maripi - 23-09-2013
http://www.planetf1.com/race-features/8937080/Winners-Losers-Singapore-GP
Vettel was at his brilliant best, while Martin Brundle finally told the crowd what they should have heard a long time ago.
Star of the Race
Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1st
Vettel was in the predicted race of his own on Sunday. The laps at the start were exceptional - a 4.1 second gap to Rosberg by Lap 2. He was up to 6.2 seconds on Lap 4 and by Lap 5 he was being told to ease off. At the re-start the gaps were breathtaking - 3.2, 5.5, 8.3, 9.9, 11.9, 14.3, 16.5, 18.7, 20.4. He produced a 20-second lead in nine laps. And in case you missed the stat - he's now led more F1 races than Nigel Mansell with only Michael Schumacher, Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna left to tick off the list. Given that Bernie's heading for 25-grand-prix-seasons those three won't take long.
It was another peerless performance from Vettel and good for Sky's Martin Brundle who told those booing Vettel on the podium: "Please don't do that, that's not correct." Because it's not. Vettel joked that it was Ferrari fans who didn't like him winning all the time, but with 17% of the audience made up of Aussies (figures supplied by the race organisers) it was probably more to do with "Multi 21 Seb".
Overtaking Move of the Race
Lap 54: Kimi Raikkonen, on Jenson Button for P3Kimi Raikkonen's pass on Jenson Button was the key element in claiming a podium place. If he hadn't have got past when he did then he could well have been swallowed by the pursuing horde of Webber, Rosberg and Hamilton. A measure of Kimi's brilliance is that he passed Button on the same age tyres, yet Nico Rosberg on much younger tyres struggled to get past the McLaren of Perez. Kimi chose the dirty line round the outside of Turn 14, a corner with no significant run-off and virtually no margin of error. He was helped by Button leaving him room, but it was an audacious move.
Winners
Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 2nd
Fernando made the most of one of those golden path starts when some cars get poor getaways and other cars conspire to move out of the way and he picks the perfect line through the first corner. Alonso likes the outside, even though it can be risky sometimes, but today his Ferrari shot through like a Scalextric car with magnetraction. It would have been interesting to register Fernando's exact emotion as he swooped round Turn 1 and realised he'd made the kind of progress in one corner that some drivers of faster cars spend an entire race not replicating.
From there on it was a question of getting the Safety Car pit-stop call right and making his tyres last till the end of the race, which didn't look as spectacular as anything he did on the opening lap but was immeasurably more difficult.
Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, 4th
A fantastic qualifying performance, an almost-perfect getaway but Nico just overran Turn 1 and that was all that Vettel needed to get him back. After that it was a mixed race, often spent querying (almost arguing) with his race engineers. The radio exchange "why do I need to push?" was one of the strangest. Many viewers will have wanted to supply an alternative answer to the one he got from Tony Ross.
Both Mercedes drivers gave the impression they didn't really know where they were. Hamilton said he thought he'd finished third when he crossed the line, not having accounted for Alonso and Raikkonen being in front.
In Monza Lewis had trouble with his radio and in Singapore Nico experienced radio problems too. Given the evolution of other technologies in F1 and the collective billions of dollars spent sucking exhaust gases to unnecessary places on cars, you'd think they might have cracked this one by now.
Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 5th
Despite working his cahunas off, Lewis Hamilton only had fifth place to show for what he equates to sitting in a sauna for two hours. You expected him to be downbeat afterwards, but no he was very positive after the race. This is probably down to the fact that although he got outqualified by Rosberg, and his start was dreadful, in the closing stages he looked considerably quicker, especially when Rosberg struggled to get past slower cars. In the past Rosberg has been asked to hold back and it was evident that Hamilton had the pace to challenge his team-mate but in the end held back.
Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 6th
Massa outqualified Alonso for the fifth time in 12 races but chose the busy side of the grid for his start and got boxed in. It was a competent performance from Felipe and shows that he is still eminently employable. One factor that is on his side is his size. With weight at a premium in the 2014 cars, he is a lot more cockpit-fitting-friendly than the hulking Nico Hulkenberg.Jenson Button, McLaren, 7th
Sergio Perez, McLaren, 8th
Although Button said there was no real chance of a podium, had Perez skidded into the barriers at Turn 18 on Lap 53 then we'd probably have had a Safety Car up to the two-hour mark. Perez kept his car in one piece despite the marbles and despite a three-way tussle with Hulkenberg and Maldonado that looked certain to end with missing aero parts.
Sigue
RE: G.P. DE SINGAPUR 2013. LA MANIPULACIÓN CONTINUA. - maripi - 23-09-2013
http://www.planetf1.com/race-features/8937080/Winners-Losers-Singapore-GP
Vettel was at his brilliant best, while Martin Brundle finally told the crowd what they should have heard a long time ago.
Star of the Race
Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1st
Vettel was in the predicted race of his own on Sunday. The laps at the start were exceptional - a 4.1 second gap to Rosberg by Lap 2. He was up to 6.2 seconds on Lap 4 and by Lap 5 he was being told to ease off. At the re-start the gaps were breathtaking - 3.2, 5.5, 8.3, 9.9, 11.9, 14.3, 16.5, 18.7, 20.4. He produced a 20-second lead in nine laps. And in case you missed the stat - he's now led more F1 races than Nigel Mansell with only Michael Schumacher, Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna left to tick off the list. Given that Bernie's heading for 25-grand-prix-seasons those three won't take long.
It was another peerless performance from Vettel and good for Sky's Martin Brundle who told those booing Vettel on the podium: "Please don't do that, that's not correct." Because it's not. Vettel joked that it was Ferrari fans who didn't like him winning all the time, but with 17% of the audience made up of Aussies (figures supplied by the race organisers) it was probably more to do with "Multi 21 Seb".
Overtaking Move of the Race
Lap 54: Kimi Raikkonen, on Jenson Button for P3Kimi Raikkonen's pass on Jenson Button was the key element in claiming a podium place. If he hadn't have got past when he did then he could well have been swallowed by the pursuing horde of Webber, Rosberg and Hamilton. A measure of Kimi's brilliance is that he passed Button on the same age tyres, yet Nico Rosberg on much younger tyres struggled to get past the McLaren of Perez. Kimi chose the dirty line round the outside of Turn 14, a corner with no significant run-off and virtually no margin of error. He was helped by Button leaving him room, but it was an audacious move.
Winners
Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 2nd
Fernando made the most of one of those golden path starts when some cars get poor getaways and other cars conspire to move out of the way and he picks the perfect line through the first corner. Alonso likes the outside, even though it can be risky sometimes, but today his Ferrari shot through like a Scalextric car with magnetraction. It would have been interesting to register Fernando's exact emotion as he swooped round Turn 1 and realised he'd made the kind of progress in one corner that some drivers of faster cars spend an entire race not replicating.
From there on it was a question of getting the Safety Car pit-stop call right and making his tyres last till the end of the race, which didn't look as spectacular as anything he did on the opening lap but was immeasurably more difficult.
Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, 4th
A fantastic qualifying performance, an almost-perfect getaway but Nico just overran Turn 1 and that was all that Vettel needed to get him back. After that it was a mixed race, often spent querying (almost arguing) with his race engineers. The radio exchange "why do I need to push?" was one of the strangest. Many viewers will have wanted to supply an alternative answer to the one he got from Tony Ross.
Both Mercedes drivers gave the impression they didn't really know where they were. Hamilton said he thought he'd finished third when he crossed the line, not having accounted for Alonso and Raikkonen being in front.
In Monza Lewis had trouble with his radio and in Singapore Nico experienced radio problems too. Given the evolution of other technologies in F1 and the collective billions of dollars spent sucking exhaust gases to unnecessary places on cars, you'd think they might have cracked this one by now.
Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 5th
Despite working his cahunas off, Lewis Hamilton only had fifth place to show for what he equates to sitting in a sauna for two hours. You expected him to be downbeat afterwards, but no he was very positive after the race. This is probably down to the fact that although he got outqualified by Rosberg, and his start was dreadful, in the closing stages he looked considerably quicker, especially when Rosberg struggled to get past slower cars. In the past Rosberg has been asked to hold back and it was evident that Hamilton had the pace to challenge his team-mate but in the end held back.
Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 6th
Massa outqualified Alonso for the fifth time in 12 races but chose the busy side of the grid for his start and got boxed in. It was a competent performance from Felipe and shows that he is still eminently employable. One factor that is on his side is his size. With weight at a premium in the 2014 cars, he is a lot more cockpit-fitting-friendly than the hulking Nico Hulkenberg.Jenson Button, McLaren, 7th
Sergio Perez, McLaren, 8th
Although Button said there was no real chance of a podium, had Perez skidded into the barriers at Turn 18 on Lap 53 then we'd probably have had a Safety Car up to the two-hour mark. Perez kept his car in one piece despite the marbles and despite a three-way tussle with Hulkenberg and Maldonado that looked certain to end with missing aero parts.
Sigue
RE: G.P. DE SINGAPUR 2013. LA MANIPULACIÓN CONTINUA. - maripi - 23-09-2013
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24213571
Ferrari's Fernando Alonso blames world title struggle on tyre change
RE: G.P. DE SINGAPUR 2013. LA MANIPULACIÓN CONTINUA. - maripi - 23-09-2013
In 2007, Alonso had the chance to join Red Bull for 2008, but he chose not to because he thought Ferrari - who he joined in 2010 after two interim years at Renault - were a better choice.
At the time, it was a sensible decision - Red Bull weren't successful yet and Ferrari were in one of their best periods. In hindsight, obviously Red Bull would have been the right call.
Ferrari have since approached Newey; he chose not to leave Red Bull.
Alonso, who did a great job again in Singapore in a car that is obviously not as good as the Red Bull, is clearly not enjoying seeing Vettel win more championships than he has so far.
But Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel are two of the all-time greats of F1. It doesn't matter how many championships each of them wins; they are equal.
The numbers are irrelevant. As complete packages, Vettel and Alonso are in a league of their own in F1 in the modern age.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24199407
RE: G.P. DE SINGAPUR 2013. LA MANIPULACIÓN CONTINUA. - magic_alonso - 23-09-2013
Con respecto a las sanciones lotus no deja esto siempre con su sentido del humor...
How to avoid a penalty... It seems it's the hot #F1 topic right now. Here's our list, any more suggestions for us?
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