• He's is the most complete driver of this moment, much better than vettel.. But hamilton is breathing in his neck. Alonso gets the best out of his car.
  
• The only driver today who can win a Championship without the best car
  
• Most complete driver in Formula 1. able to adjust to different conditions. Easily able to change driving style to suit the car. Making Ferrari look better than they really are. ALONSO POWER!
  
• What a great driver man!
  
• For me, he is the best of all drivers today, very complete driver and perfect, in technical view is absolutely the best of all drivers ever. He know perfect start, Clutch, Pump and gas, perfect traction and give maximum of car, pure example is 2012 year.
  
• Its Alonso for sure. Whatever car he has, he can get the best out of it. His real strength is in his race starts, and his pit strategy.
  
• The best! Fast, intelligent, constant!
  
• The best of all F1 drivers currently but he needs the best car to win the championship. This is the F1 rules;
  
• The most intelligent driver on the track I have seen, his talent is evident and his method of outline each race is enviable.
  
• He's the most complete driver of this moment.
  
• The Best Driver I have watched Driving After Mika Haikennen. His Ability to get best out of the cat even though it is not best, makes him my first choice of the drivers. In Each Race, Overtaking 3-4 front runner ahead of him makes him the perfect driver
  
• Best Driver on the track in comparison to the other world champions, gets the best out of the car. A perfect masterpiece of driving. Still has lot more to do. Love watching his overtakes
  
• Best driver ever, he gets his car to the limit, whatever he can't do with his car, nobody will. 
  
• Extraordinary ability to get the best out of any car, so when he is in a good machine, he is practically unstoppable. Definitely the best of the current bunch.
  
• If you gave everyone the same car and he started last, he would win the race.
  
• Gets the most out of his car, drives clean and smart, appears to be a generally all around good guy. 
  
• The best driver for sure in the current era. Perhaps not the best in all aspects but the best in overall. Fast, very skilled and more intelligent. 
  
• Surely deserves at least one more world title. Give him a car that is top of the field, for once!
  
• The greatest of all. He beat the "King" twice with the "Best Machine" using the sub-standard Renault (at that time). He chased out the "King" from the castle...
  
• He clearly has a potential to make a car perform more than it should. The only driver apart from Senna who has done that.
  
• He is actually the best f1 driver nowadays, and in the top 5. He has beaten all his teammates (well, Hamilton (+ Dennis + 90% of the team supporting Hamilton) just coudlnt beat him, he just got the same number of points than Alonso...
  
• What he did with the most mediocre of Ferraris in 2012 was nothing short of a miracle. That car was supposed to keep him away from the podium all season and yet he battled for the championship until the last few laps, in that final race in Brazil.
  
• Not the fastest on qualifying. But impressive skills and motivation. He is smart and extremely efficient on race.
  
• The greatest of his generation never in the dominant car and still sits high up in the record books
  
• He is much better than Michael Schumacher because Schumacher won his tittles when there werent any car better than the Ferrari and Alonso did it fighting with a car that wasnt the best
  
• He won a lot of champs with a slower car
  
• Only Alonso could win the championship in the 4th best car
  
• He is the best driver. His capacity to choose the worst car should be analyzed.
  
• Really good driver, he just needs a good car next year
  
• First of all he deserves a better car... If he had a better car he would have more championships for sure. I have no words for this two time champion,he's the best driver ever seen and Formula One is lucky to have drivers like him 
  
• He should have about 5 world championships and is unlucky to have bad carsM 
  
• Not the best for me. Needs number 1 status to beat his team mates. Got beat by Hamilton and Button.-M 
  
• Even just double world champion, his skill is the best thing.M 
  
• Most Unlucky Formula1 Champion - JefinM+1
  
• The Best even without a good car
  
• He had one of the cars and he won two championships
  
• Always one to watch when conditions are tricky
  
• Unluckiest champion ever that's the real fact! 
  
• Greatest driver of all time in my opinion.
  
• The best driver of F1 for the last 10 years. He is the only one who can bring a tractor to the podium. That just makes someone talented and determination. A true champion.
  
• Unfortunately never in the right car.
  
• A Driver who is competitive every season, under different regulations and can get the most out of his equipment whether it's good or not.
  
• Consistently brilliant.
  
• He has shown everything that a great champion can achieve through his career. His only slight weakness over single lap quali but who needs that when you're the best racer in the field - krezcat
  
• Not perfect in any specific thing(for example qualifying) but he is the perfect driver. He is so good and so strong in everything that makes him the best!M-1
  
• Alonso is amazing at starts. In 2012 he did not lose a single position on the first lap of a race. Crushed Massa Raikonen and button. 
  
• If that's about championship than yeah, he is not the best but If that's about skills, than I don't see any reasonw why he shouldn't be the best 
  
• The best driver in all history. If he had the best car, he had four or five tittles of wordl champions.
  
• 100 % the best driver at the moment he allways gets the best out of the car Close to 0 mistakes as well
  
• Absolutely the best driver in his era, even a bit better than Shumacher. On the same Level with Senna, Prost and Fangio
  
• The best in general condition the magic in sceptional conditiona
  
• Fernando is by far the greatest driver of the present generation F1 drivers.
  
• Beat Schumacher twice fair and square.
  
• Was unlucky in the move to Ferrari, that should give him the winning car he deserved.
  
• Hopefully McLaren and in particular Honda can give him that package to win again titles in the near future.M 
  
• Should be in the top 3 greatest race car drivers of all time. Nº 1 in consistency, able to maintain concentration and consistency over and over each lap... intelligent racecraft and aggressive style. Watch out for indy and it would be amazing for him to get the triple crown...especially since McLaren isn't going to give him a competitive package in F1 anytime soon...M 
  
• Obviously the greatest ever. This man is a complete package.
  
• Luck wasn't his friend as he always ended up being in slower cars.
  
• But what he has achieved over the years, he earns that number 1 spot.
  
• Anyone close? Yeah may be Sir Jackie Stewart, Alain Prost & Michael Schumacher.
  

(27-05-2017, 13:58)El abuelo escribió:

(27-05-2017, 13:34)Formulero escribió: El problema por el que molesta que se alabe tanto a Alonso (alabanzas bien ganadas y merecidas) no es tanto el asturiano, sino algunos de sus aficionados que exceden las líneas del sentido común, lo que coloquialmente se llama alonsada. Alonso es un grande de la historia duela a quien le duela, pocos han habido como él, pero el problema no viene por ahí abuelo

El problema que yo me encuentro cada vez que hago una alabanza de Alonso, o pongo una alabanza a Alonso.. es que siempre hay alguien que le encuentra una excusa:

Benson alaba a Alonso.. "Benson es el mayor alonsista de Inglaterra"


Minardi alaba a Alonso.. "Minardi lo hace porque es amigo"

Fittipaldi alaba a ALonso.. "El brasileño hace años que no ve la F1"

Andretti alaba a Alonso.. "Es normal, es todo marketing"


Y así uno tras otro.
Siempre habrá alguno que encuentre una 'razón' para descalificar los méritos e Alonso.

Simplemente les molesta que se alabe a Alonso.

Durante años se calificaba de comentario de Alonsada decir que Alonso lleva el coche más cerca del límite que nadie.. o que incluso a veces lo sobrepasa..

¿tambien es 'alonsada' cuando el mismo comentario lo  hace Andretti.. y me refiero a Don Mario.?

¿Que es alabar a Alonso 'por encima del sentido común?

A algunos les molesta que les diga que no me gusta Senna..
Les molesta y les parece 'por encima del sentido común' que diga que Senna no me parecía mejor que Prost.
A otros no les parece de sentido común que se les diga que Hamilton no ganó a Alonso. "si quedó mejor en el campeonato, le ganó. No puedes decir lo contrario"

Pues, contra su sentido comun, puedo decirlo y puedo demostrarlo:
De las carreras que ambos terminaron, Alonso le ganó a Hamilton (quedó delante) más veces de las que Hamilton quedó delante de Alonso.

Ahora viene alguno y me dice por tuiter la misma chorrada que ha soltado Hamilton.. "si Alonso ha ido a la indy y siendo novato ha hecho 5º, demuestra el poco nivel de la Indy"
(Imaginaos el mismo comentario aplicado a Hamilton en Australia 2007, donde el novato calificó 4º..)
Son ese tipo de comentarios, los que de verdad insultan la inteligencia.


Ejemplos:
- Los títulos son los que demuestran quien es el mejor del mundo. Alonso no los tiene, por eso no puede ser el mejor.

- Los españoles exagerais todo lo que hace Alonso. Si es tan bueno ¿por que no gana nada desde 2006?

- Alonso ganó sus mundiales con el mejor coche de la parrilla. Y con el mejor coche, perdió sus mundiales con Vettel.


Esos si son comentarios "fuera del sentido común", comentarios de demuestran un desconocimiento de la F1 y de los meritos de Alonso.

La mayoría de las veces, se descalifica como "comentario de Alonsada", afirmaciones que, mas tarde o más temprano, se demuestran ciertas.

(27-05-2017, 13:34)Formulero escribió:

(27-05-2017, 13:27)El abuelo escribió: Minardi es un forofo de Alonso
Andretti, es forofo de Alonso
Fittipaldi, forofo de Alonso
Kanaan, forofo de Alonso
Stewart, forofo de Alonso.
Gil de Ferran, forofo de Alonso
Brown, forofo de Alonso.
Brawn, forofo de Alonso
Media parrilla de la Indycar (por ser cauto) es forofa de Alonso
El jefe de f1 de la BBC, Benson,  es forofo de Alonso
Uno de los más reputados periodistas del motor de inglaterra, Roebuck, es forofo de Alonso
Otro gran gurú, Mark Hughes, tambien es forofo de Alonso



La pregunta que debería hacerse alguno es..
¿por que tanto entendido del motor es forofo de Alonso.. y yo no lo soy?

El problema por el que molesta que se alabe tanto a Alonso (alabanzas bien ganadas y merecidas) no es tanto el asturiano, sino algunos de sus aficionados que exceden las líneas del sentido común, lo que coloquialmente se llama alonsada. Alonso es un grande de la historia duela a quien le duela, pocos han habido como él, pero el problema no viene por ahí abuelo

(27-05-2017, 09:44)enrike hu fr escribió:

(27-05-2017, 08:43)payoloco escribió: Sobre las declaraciones de Massa, diciendo que es poco profesional esto de no correr en Mónaco, decir que estoy de acuerdo.

Es decir, estrictamente es así. Si Messi o Cristiano dicen que no juegan el clásico para ir a jugar un partido de la liga China, que diríamos?

Lo único que ocurre es que Massa no se entera, como toda su vida, que ha pasado sin enterarse.

El analiza el hecho sin más, pero lo que ha hecho Fernando es una jugada maestra, es una carambola a 3 bandas que sólo los grandes jugadores de billar saben ver: lograr reconocimiento fuera de "nuestras fronteras", probar otros coches y circuitos, y encima arrebatar el protagonismo de la categoría "reina" en su carrera más emblemática.

Cómo alguien como Massa, con un cociente justito, no lo va a ver poco profesional? No le alcanza a ver más allá, eso es todo.

Lo de Hamilton es otro rollo, para este tengo un post para él solo.

lo que està claro es que Alonso no se ha ido solo con su maletita ,, es el Director de su equipo es el que para compensarle a él y para reforzar una marca devaluada a causa de unos motores que todavia no funcionan han decidido llevar a Alonso con su equipo Mclaren  y motorizado por Honda a la INdy  ,,matizando porque no es lo mismo ,,,,y con eso le dan un  plas plas  a la f-1 y abren ojos a diestra y siniestra  y muestran  como deberian progresar las cosas en cuanto a la F-1  ,,el piloto ,,los circuitos ,,eso es F-1  ,no farsantes y tilke-metros planos con escapatorias para nulos  y cuando pones un muro ,,o no aprietan o se la pegan como Stroll ,,en fin  que  tu ejemplo no es bueno pienso ,,,

#espero que no calientes la leche en el miicro-Hondas ,,,