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RE: DIRECTO: E.Oficiales 2.1 y Clasifiación GP de Gran Bretaña 2013 - Melife1 - 29-06-2013
(29-06-2013, 17:41)Alano_Spanol escribió: Algo improbable, pero matemáticamente posible.
Algún día Mercedes AMG dejará de ser una amenaza sólo en calificación.
En Canadá Alonso ya las pasó medio **** para adelantar a Hamilton. Por los pelos, eh
Aquí no va a oler a los Mercedes ..... Y veremos si puede con el FI
RE: DIRECTO: E.Oficiales 2.1 y Clasifiación GP de Gran Bretaña 2013 - 4motion - 29-06-2013
(29-06-2013, 17:46)magic_alonso escribió: Nuevo look de kimi
![[Imagen: BN8H7MVCUAAiXZI.jpg]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN8H7MVCUAAiXZI.jpg)
Es el P U T O AMO sabe que esta en un circo y se DESCOJONA.
RE: DIRECTO: E.Oficiales 2.1 y Clasifiación GP de Gran Bretaña 2013 - El abuelo - 29-06-2013
Necesito que alguien con conocimientos de mecanica calcule la potencia teorica de un motor:
a: 8 cilindros y 2,4L atmosferico que consume 150 Kg de gasolina en 90 minutos
B 6 clindros y 1,6L turboalimentado (sin limite) que consume 100Kg de gasolina en 90 minutos
Despues, que calculen el rendimiento del motor A, si sabemos que su potencia es de unos 800Cv con un par de 350Nm
Y por ultimo, que apliquen ese rendimiento al motor B..
Es que Pirelli dice que en 2014, los motores serán MUCHO mas potentes (900Cv y 600Nm)
Y he visto calculos por otras webs donde se afirmaba que Sería muy dificil superar los 650cv
27.8 g/sec at 46.4 MJ/kg and 35% efficiency, which is a lot, means 451 kW or 614 Hp from the engine.
The MGU-K is in now limited to 50 000 Rpm and 200 Nm (See 5.2.3), but also to 120 kW or 163 Hp.
Total 556 kW or 777 metric HP, perhaps matched to today's engines?
The 900 Hp would call for 737 Hp engine, 542 kW, and an efficiency of 42%, which I doubt very much.
RE: DIRECTO: E.Oficiales 2.1 y Clasifiación GP de Gran Bretaña 2013 - BELAY - 29-06-2013
El segundo se lleva 18 puntos
RE: DIRECTO: E.Oficiales 2.1 y Clasifiación GP de Gran Bretaña 2013 - Alano_Spanol - 29-06-2013
(29-06-2013, 16:58)Melife1 escribió: cavallino @el5cavallino
#Alonso "I don't want to complain anything about Pirelli.
There were others complaining about Pirelli when they were not performing well"
cavallino @el5cavallino
#Alonso "But if someone with these tyres can do 1:30.2 and we cannot do it, it is our problem, so we need to improve"
Esta es la lectura (política) oficial que históricamente se ha dado en la competitiva F1.
1. No te quejes.
2. Si no evolucionas (o trampeas) lo suficiente; u otros evolucionan (o trampean) más que tú: eres TÚ quien tiene un problema.
_____________________
Incluso con la tecnología insana de F1 de hoy, se sigue aplicando máximas, como "sólo es trampa si te descubren".
http://carmen2610.blogspot.com.es/ (...i'm agree)
RE: DIRECTO: E.Oficiales 2.1 y Clasifiación GP de Gran Bretaña 2013 - NachoBcn - 29-06-2013
Lo de mclaren es de traca también. De verdad que no lo entiendo.
Enviado desde mi Nexus 10 usando Tapatalk 4 Beta
RE: DIRECTO: E.Oficiales 2.1 y Clasifiación GP de Gran Bretaña 2013 - Alano_Spanol - 29-06-2013
(29-06-2013, 17:53)BELAY escribió: El segundo se lleva 18 puntos
(* Corregido)
RE: DIRECTO: E.Oficiales 2.1 y Clasifiación GP de Gran Bretaña 2013 - Rubenchu - 29-06-2013
(29-06-2013, 15:58)ldg escribió:(29-06-2013, 15:02)Rubenchu escribió:(29-06-2013, 15:00)ldg escribió:(29-06-2013, 14:48)jorvermo escribió: Gracias ferrari una vez mas por darle ese coche tan mediocre a Fernando. Yo soy Fernando y mañana mismo me retiro de la F1. Y otra cosa, deberían de haberse ahorrado ese juego de neumáticos medios . Lo he dicho antes de que pasara. Bueno, nos ponemos a pensar en el año que viene?
Y mercedes diciéndonos que no han extraído ningún dato del test? Venga ya, por favor!! Que esto es todo una mentira. Y de repente los toro rosso vuelan? Quien coño se cree esta mentira?
Cuando un deportista se retira porque no puede ganar.. no merece el titulo
Cuando un deportista lucha hasta el fin, sean cuales sean las armas que tiene, aunque termine el ultimo es ganador, porque ha hecho todo lo que humanamente posible....
eso siempre lo he admirado en Don Fernando Alonso
Discrepo, Fernando es un deportista de los mejores, pero la F1 no es un deporte.
discrepo es un deporte motor.
en otros deportes hay drogas y en este trampas pero, es deporte
Para mi no es ningún tipo de deporte, algo que se sabe que esta manipulado para beneficiar y perjudicar a otros..
Sigue disfrutando de tu deporte de motor
Que yo disfruto de Alonso.
RE: DIRECTO: E.Oficiales 2.1 y Clasifiación GP de Gran Bretaña 2013 - Melife1 - 29-06-2013
(29-06-2013, 16:09)susa escribió: No tengo claro que Fernando haya dicho que Pirelli favorece a dos equipos...
(29-06-2013, 16:15)susa escribió: no dices la fuente, pero decir que cargó contra su equipo es de una mala baba... cuando habla siempre en plural. En fin, lo de siempre. Demos gracias a Ferrari, los palos se los va a llevar Alonso.
British GP: Ferrari worse and worse says Fernando Alonso
Fernando Alonso admitted Ferrari were facing a "dangerous moment" after he qualified only 10th for the British Grand Prix.
The Spaniard enters Sunday's race at Silverstone already 36 points behind championship leader Sebastian Vettel.
"We seem to perform worse and worse," said Alonso, who won two of the first five races this year.
“We are disappointed with today's performance. We are not delivering what we are supposed to deliver every weekend with the new parts that are coming ”
"We need immediately the form we had at the beginning of the year. If not, we will lose too much ground."
Alonso said Ferrari were "not happy" with their performance and said that the team were struggling with a problem that has afflicted them for several seasons - new parts not giving the performing boost expected.
"We are disappointed with today's performance," he said. "We are not delivering what we are supposed to deliver every weekend with the new parts that are coming.
"Some of them, most of them - they are not working, so we are missing a little bit of pace compared to the top teams.
"But it is hard to imagine we lose so much compared to them. If we were two or three tenths slower than the fastest car two months ago, now it is difficult to believe we are one second. So it is something more than that.
"We are not developing the car good enough, this is true, but also here in the track maybe we don't find the right set-up, the right moment. Maybe the tyres are not working effectively, whatever.
"The problem is we need to investigate it, because we must improve."
Alonso's qualifying lap was more than 1.3 seconds slower then Mercedes driver Lewis Hamilton's pole position, and 0.768secs behind Vettel, who starts third.
The 31-year-old was 0.243secs slower than Force India's Paul Di Resta and was out-qualified by Daniel Ricciardo's Toro Rosso, the second Force India of Adrian Sutil and both Lotus cars.
Lotus driver Kimi Raikkonen, who is eight points behind Alonso in the championship in eighth place starts just ahead of him in ninth position.
Alonso said: "We need to of course to be realistic about our problems in the team. But we cannot be also be too stressed about this qualifying.
"We need to improve the situation immediately, to react from tomorrow's race to next week in the Nurburgring and [two weeks after that in] Hungary.
"But in this moment we need to also remain very calm. If tomorrow we can recover some points with the leaders it will be a fantastic race.
"So we need to first finish tomorrow's race, be really calm in the factory, think what we need to do for the next two races to improve our performance."
Alonso admitted that Pirelli's choice of the hard and medium tyres for Silverstone was not ideal for Ferrari but refused to blame that for the team's lack of pace.
He said: "I don't want to complain anything about Pirelli. There were others complaining about Pirelli when they were not performing well [a reference to Red Bull].
"Now we are not performing well because the car is not performing well, because here on the track, all of us, maybe we are not doing the job well enough.
"It is true also that they are maybe not our favourite tyre choice. For us and Lotus, it is not a secret.
"But if someone with these tyres can do 1:30.2 [Vettel's qualifying time] and we cannot do it, it is our problem, so we need to improve."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/23112364
RE: DIRECTO: E.Oficiales 2.1 y Clasifiación GP de Gran Bretaña 2013 - Rubenchu - 29-06-2013
Por cierto no se que cojones tendrá el RedBull pero al verlo hoy por las curvas rápidas de silverstone parece que vuelve a ir sobre raíles..