Briatore: «La relación entre Webber y Vettel no se podrá arreglar»

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Tremendo...jajajajaja

Menudo cerdaco es este tío...

....Artista te sales....

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Vettel pide perdón en casa



El alemán se disculpa uno por uno ante los empleados de la sede en Milton Keynes por su peligroso duelo con Mark Webber en Malasia
Las variables dependen del puesto en el Mundial de marcas
'Reconoció que el equipo es más importante', aseguró Horner


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Sebastian Vettel sigue pagando el peaje de su duelo de alto voltaje con Mark Webber en Sepang . Tras pedir disculpas sobre el terreno, le tocó el turno de hacerlo en su propia casa. Ante los empleados de la sede de la escudería en la localidad británica de Milton Keynes, el alemán volvió a reconocer su error y pidió perdón a cada uno de los empleados de la factoría, según relató Christian Horner, jefe del equipo, en 'Sky television'.

"Ya dijo que no puede volver atrás pero aceptó su error", aseguró Horner, que desveló que Vettel, en su visita del pasado martes a la sede del equipo, pidió disculpas a los empleados uno por uno. "Se disculpó con el equipo y con cada miembro del staff por sus acciones, porque reconoce que el equipo es mucho más importante y ser parte del equipo es crucial para luchar por el Mundial".

"La intención del equipo fue que Mark ganase esa carrera", desveló Horner, tratando de acallar las dudas sobre los planes de Webber para el resto de la temporada. "Mark sabe que no hubo mala intención desde el equipo para crear una situación como la que vimos en Sepang. Tiene un monoplaza capaz de ganar carreras y de luchar por el campeonato, así que no tengo duda de que terminará el año con nosotros", añadió.

Horner reconoció que los fans querían ver a los pilotos luchando entre ellos pero aseguró que se deben a los 600 empleados del equipo, cuyas primas -bonus- las marcan la posición de la escudería en el campeonato de constructores. "La responsabilidad es asegurar que el equipo alcanza lo máximo", añadió.
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/201...80463.html



No me creo nada de nada

PARIPÉ CAPÍTULO 2

[MrC]

No entendí a Vettel, Webber ha hecho mucho por él y en la segunda carrera de la temporada se merecía alguna consideración por parte del piloto alemán. Muy mal Vettel, muy egoísta y sobre Briatore... me refuerda a Valdano, pronto de comentarista en La Sexta.

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Muchas gracias Alano por los dos interesantes artículos. Lo que decía unos post atrás: Mateschitz y su reacción dejan bien claro que el ridículo espantoso que han hecho ha dolido y mucho. O Mark se vá por su propio pié o le van a tener que aguantar hasta final de temporada. No ya por que le necesiten deportivamente...es que no se pueden permitir otra ostia de este calibre a su imagen de marca.

El problema es que Mark está ya hasta los mismísimos, y puede llegar a resultar incontrolable...sobre todo si le azuza Tito Flavio... eh eh eh ...creo que intuyo algunas de las razones de Briatore para posicionarse en el asunto, y no sólo es porque sea su manager....

...menuda papeleta les ha quedado a estos hipócritas tramposos, que tanto criticaron a Ferrari en 2010...Y tela el tema de Mercedes, otros que tal andan...

Por cierto, no quiero dejar de destacar esto:

...Posiblemente más de un aficionado español que hoy critica a Vettel de forma despiada, hubiera aplaudido esta maniobra de haberla hecho Fernando Alonso con Felipe Massa.

Los comentarios sobre que Felipe frenaba el ritmo de Fernando en los compases iniciales del GP de Australia están ahí...

Con todo el respeto a mis muchos amig@s catalanes y catalanas.....Señores de Mundo Deportivo....se les ve descaradamente a ustedes el Plumero Antialonsista y Antiespañol debajo de la Barretina adornada con la Estelada. No mezclemos la butifarra con la velocidad.

Yo soy español y aficionado, y de hacer una así Don Fernando Alonso hubiera recibido una severísima crítica por mi parte. Lo que les jode a ustedes es que saben perfectamente que este Señor no haría eso jamás en su vida, lo que no les dá munición para sus independentistas y antiespañolas salvas.

...eso sí, enmierda, vilipendia y difama gratuitamente, que algo quedará...¿a que sí?

[German Sanchez]

Briatore es el manager de Webber, y por tanto el que habrá aconsejado y gestionado los contratos de Webber con Red Bull tras la vergüenza de 2010, 2011, etc...
Sabiendo cómo se las gasta tito Flavio estará usando ésto para conseguir otro año más de contrato y que Mark siga teniendo la boquita cerrada, a cambio claro de un jugoso contrato. Al final esto les habrá venido bien a todos: Bernie por la polémica y la audiencia, Vettel con 25 puntos pa la saca y Webber con nuevo contrato.......y nosotros con cara de tontos.
Qué ganas de que Fernando les ponga en su sitio de una vez por todas.

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Vettel se disculpa con el personal de Red Bull.

Al finalizar el encuentro, algunos componentes del equipo se han acercado a saludarlo, pero Seb ha tenido que salir corriendo de la sala con un ataque de risa.

...tal cual...

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Briatore es el manager de Webber, y por tanto el que habrá aconsejado y gestionado los contratos de Webber con Red Bull tras la vergüenza de 2010, 2011, etc...
Sabiendo cómo se las gasta tito Flavio estará usando ésto para conseguir otro año más de contrato y que Mark siga teniendo la boquita cerrada, a cambio claro de un jugoso contrato. Al final esto les habrá venido bien a todos: Bernie por la polémica y la audiencia, Vettel con 25 puntos pa la saca y Webber con nuevo contrato.......y nosotros con cara de tontos.
Qué ganas de que Fernando les ponga en su sitio de una vez por todas.

....pues esa podría ser también la intrahistoria german....de ser así que ascazo....y entonces que le hagan 200 más a Webber, que se las merecerá....

Espero que de verdad sea el comienzo de una guerra en toda regla, porque si es lo que dices sería lamentabilísimo....

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Yo confío por la parte que nos toca que Webber esté lo sufientemente cabreado (que es lo normal) para no hacerle ni una concesión al del dedito. Es más, creo que Briatore piensa también en Fernando y no sé... pero por la amistad que hay entre ellos también ayudará a que Vetelito no lo tenga este año tan fácil.

Otra cosita... que bueno el gif de Webber!!!!! felicidades al artista que lo ha creado, está sembrao jajajaja

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Is Mark Webber entirely the innocent party in 'Multi-21-Gate' or is he playing it for all its worth? Alex Jennings believes there may be extenuating circumstances behind Sebastian Vettel's grab for glory at Sepang.

Red Bull have said they are going to sort out Sebastian Vettel's wilful disobedience of team orders at the Malaysian Grand Prix behind closed doors. Which is a pity for us. The full facts certainly won't become clear before we get to the Chinese GP in Shanghai, but in years to come, as Red Bull personnel move to other teams, we may get a few more fragments of what happened at Sepang in 2013.

Disobeying a team order is a serious misdemeanour and triple World Champion Sebastian Vettel has been vilified as a result of it. But anybody who has listened to Sebastian in the past will appreciate that he's a thinking driver and that grabbing the chance of victory was probably more than just a red mist of opportunity. He may have thought he deserved it for a number of reasons - because of what has happened in the past, or some of the odd strategy calls in the race.

So when the teams reconvene in Shanghai it would be good to ask the Red Bull management a number of questions. Number one - what was Mark's strategy for the grand prix? Vettel pitted at the end of Lap 5 for slicks, took on mediums and made them last till the end of Lap 22 when he took on the hard tyre.

Webber pitted at the end of Lap 7 and took on the hard tyre which only lasted him till the end of Lap 19. Staying out two laps longer had given him the lead, but in the second stint, on the hard tyre, he couldn't shrug off Vettel and surprised commentators by coming in so early. Who was he racing at that stage - Vettel, or the two Mercedes behind Vettel?

Webber wasn't able to make his mediums last as well as Vettel in the second stint. And while Vettel was able to close up on Webber when the Aussie had hards and the German had mediums - when they swapped tyres Vettel was quicker on the hards as well.

The gaps on Lap 23 were:
Lap 23: Webber to Vettel, 2.6: Vettel to Hamilton 2.1: Hamilton to Rosberg 3.3

At this stage Lewis Hamilton was flying with a fastest lap of 1:41.610 putting pressure on Vettel. In fact, the three cars following Webber were all closing in. Webber suddenly slowed down by 1.4 seconds to the cars behind. Thus the gaps on Lap 24 were:
Lap 24: Webber to Vettel, 1.2: Vettel to Hamilton 1.8: Hamilton to Rosberg 2.6
Lap 25: Webber to Vettel, 0.5: Vettel to Hamilton 1.7: Hamilton to Rosberg 2.3
Lap 26: Webber to Vettel, 0.4: Vettel to Hamilton 1.3: Hamilton to Rosberg 2.6
Lap 27: Webber to Vettel, 0.7: Vettel to Hamilton 1.0: Hamilton to Rosberg 1.9
Lap 28: Webber to Vettel, 1.3: Vettel to Hamilton 1.2: Hamilton to Rosberg 2.2
It was around Lap 26/27 that Vettel uttered his dismissive "Mark is too slow, get him out of the way," which sounded exactly like the kind of thing that a 'protected' spoilt boy would say. But the lap times show that Mark was only five laps into his stint on the mediums, could have gone faster, and was backing Vettel up into the two Mercedes. If his intent was to try and run as slowly as possible on a faster tyre than Vettel, then the logical thing would have been to let Vettel through as their strategies were different. Vettel had proved in the first stint that he could make the medium tyre last longer, so why wasn't he let through?

Autosport's Mark Hughes believes that Webber was backing Vettel into the cars behind, just as he had been before their infamous clash in Turkey in 2010. Vettel was irate at not being allowed to run his true pace - because his engineer was soon on the radio telling him not to follow too close in the fast corners - and also aware that the two cars behind him were running on his pace and not Webber's.

As a result of dropping back close to the Mercedes, Vettel fell behind Lewis Hamilton at the next round of pit-stops. Webber didn't. As we subsequently found out, Lewis Hamilton was hugely overdrawn on his fuel balance to be in that position and had to go into serious fuel-saving mode, but Webber didn't know that. Webber may have thought that he'd successfully pushed his team-mate back a place.

Going into the final round of pit-stops, Vettel stopped first and was charging on track. It would have been interesting to know exactly when the "multi 21" call came on team radio for him to hold station. Webber dived in for his final pit-stop at the end of Lap 43 and when he emerged on Lap 44 he was side by side with Vettel going into Turn 1.

Given that there can be glitches in pit-stops, you can't imagine that the team would issue a call to hold station and turn down engines before the final pit-stops had played out. So presumably that first piece of side-by-side racing between the two team-mates on lap 44 was admissible. It is only subsequent to that, that Vettel's desire to get past Webber contravened "multi 21".

Mark says he was asked to turn the engine down after the final pit-stop, so when did he do it? Probably not between the exit of the pitlane and the apex of Turn 1. In interviews after the race Mark seemed to be suggesting that his engine was turned down and he was cruising, but he wasn't cruising until Vettel had passed him. If that had been the case, what would be the point of veering across in front of Vettel and trying to pin him against the pitwall down the straight if he knew Vettel had DRS and Webber's engine was turned down...?

As other people have suggested - a lot of this goes back to the World Championship conclusion of 2012 when Webber acted anything but a team-mate - as Andrew Davies noted in the Winners and Losers column after the Brazilian GP.

Christian Horner must have been on auto-pilot/auto-quote after the race when he called Mark Webber a great team player. It's hard to know what help he was at the start when he moved across and blocked Vettel's line, forcing him to give up places to Alonso and Hulkenberg. That was the one thing he had to do, make sure Seb got a clean get away and he blocked him. It's not like he didn't know Vettel was going to be there.
Then on the re-start after the Safety Car he attacked his team-mate into Turn 1 and put him under the kind of pressure he really didn't need...

Horner smiled for the cameras, but the full force of anger at Webber's behaviour that day was stored up by Red Bull's special advisor Helmut Marko and unleashed in his withering appraisal of Webber's ability to withstand pressure in the Red Bull house magazine.

Webber himself isn't immune to ignoring team orders either. At Silverstone in 2011 Fernando Alonso was cruising to an easy win, followed home by Vettel and a closing-fast Mark Webber (who had just overtaken a fuel-saving Lewis Hamilton). The team told him to hold P3 and he ignored their instruction and went for the second place. Vettel held him off.

This is just some of the background to Vettel's decision to ignore team orders and snatch a win from his team-mate. Had the two collided then it would have been Vettel's fault. On the surface it looked like the action of an arrogant driver who is above the rules set down by the team. In reality it's a lot more complex and there may have been provocations that - without access to the Red Bull strategy for the Malaysian GP - gave Vettel the sense of entitlement that he clearly felt. There is no question that he was in the wrong and that he shouldn't have risked so much so early in the season. But it looks like there were extenuating circumstances.

Mark Webber may have lost the race but very craftily - he's won the aftermath.

Alex Jennings

http://www.planetf1.com/editorial/860960...ing-Vettel-